armstrmb

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2010 10:51:40 AM
Interesting, sneakers55.
Where is the USB port on the Ford?
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condé

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 3:26:14 PM
Can't see the topic..... has the UNION got control here......
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Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 2:49:03 PM
AND THE BIG MESS GOES ON!!
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GatorGuy

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 1:04:24 PM
Ouch. First the gas then the brakes...what's next for Toyota to recall?
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TomJDriver

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 11:15:16 AM
But, here's the big question not aimed at anyone here:
Does anyone outside of GB or other blogs really listen to untruths propagated on blogs?
Lets hope not. Nuf said already.
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must87searcher

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:37:44 AM
No automaker is perfect!
Recalls hit all of them. Sometimes, the recalls are not much, but this one is giving Toyota a big hit at a bad time. This should not give them too much damage. because it is evident that they will stay a world automaker.
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:34:14 AM
wwcj wrote:
>Software fix, just everyone pulg thier cars into >the internet!
Ford has at least once modified the firmware that runs SYNC by having the owners download a file onto a USB thumb drive and sticking the thumb drive into the USB slot.
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zimowski

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:33:17 AM
As expected.
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wwcj

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:17:29 AM
Software fix, just everyone pulg thier cars into the internet! LOL...
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:14:48 AM
connbrown wrote:
>toyota is in lots of trouble.
It's sweeps month. Therefore, the MSM needs something sensational to talk about.
>i am already getting tired of hearing about toyota!
Ford has a recall or Government Motors has a recall, it just doesn't get the same attention.
>all i have to say is i am glad i don't own a toyota!
I've got a Scion tC (made by Toyota). No recalls.
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mackconsult

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:13:12 AM
Toyota is hurting, but will recover
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jony

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:12:46 AM
toyota only came clean after being pressured! They would not have done anything if they could have gotten away with it
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:10:55 AM
RochBear wrote:
>Toyota's quality is just a Legend, and not real.
First car that I ever got that held together good was a Toyota and so far they have not disappointed.
>Ford says they have Quality which can't be beat by >Toyota.
With an asterisk and mice type. Besides, ninety days out is hardly a proof of long term durability.
>"Go Toyota, and while you're leaving, take Honda back >to Japan too!"
Honda and Toyota have enough of an American presence that if they chained the gates shut and went back to Japan you wouldn't be complaining about the recession. You'd be complaining about the depression instead.
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napermike79

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:09:39 AM
I'm beginning to think they aren't ignoring the problem, they can't consistently repeat or isolate the problem. Being a state of the art vehicle, computers don't work well in all environments. Tough spot to be in... If this is true and it's software, the whole auto industry better watch out.
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connbrown

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:09:30 AM
toyota is in lots of trouble. i am already getting tired of hearing about toyota! all i have to say is i am glad i don't own a toyota!
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MacGyver_1701

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:09:16 AM
I am sure this recall will boost prices of fuel.
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AnObserver

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:07:06 AM
Will there be emough space in the dealers' garages for all of the recalled cars?
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bozo

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:06:31 AM
we wont have to bail out toyota.
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Minutefan

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:05:44 AM
They've squandered their reputation for quality. Time for US auto makers to take advantage of this opportunity.
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Sam195

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:05:41 AM
Toyota has lost its biggest asset: reputation
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:05:29 AM
niceguytx wrote:
>We'll see if GM can take advantage of this great >opportunity.
Government Motors is trying to. Bring in a Toyota or a Lexus and they'll give you an extra $1000 rebate. Of course, with GM, it's funny money raised by taxing Toyota owners.
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RochBear

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:05:04 AM
Toyota quality is "LEGENDARY". Hmmm, Legends are mythical, Tend to be blown out of proportion. Yep, that's what has happened here.
Toyota's quality is just a Legend, and not real. Ford says they have Quality which can't be beat by Toyota. Hmmmm, not sure I would boast about being better than Toyota right now. I would think some soap box derby cars would qualify as better quality. "Go Toyota, and while you're leaving, take Honda back to Japan too!"
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jwalkerh

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:04:18 AM
Toyota has a big job of repairing the defects but they seem to be gearing up to the challenge.
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bell05

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:03:14 AM
I believe these are just bumps in the road for Toyota.
Lets move on.
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tobasco

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:02:31 AM
Same story.
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CharlieC08

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:00:23 AM
Tired of hearing about Toyota.
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 10:00:04 AM
KNOTTUSLIM wrote:
>Remember the Pearl ! Who took us into it and who's >technology won.
Give us a break.
Pearl Harbor was close to 70 years ago. And don't forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki. IMHO, Japan was well repaid.
>Buy from an American company,Ford.
The major thing American about Ford is the location of the headquarters.
And, besides, Ford profited selling stuff to both sides during the WWII you seem to be so obsessed with.
>Much better vehicles than toyota.
I want to see long-term data before making a long-term investment.
And, besides, Ford's recalling their MEXICAN MADE HYBRIDS.
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ampinoy13

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:58:30 AM
Doing the right thing. Is there any other earth-shattering news?
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doncNJ

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:58:28 AM
Poor TOY. We all fell sorry for them don't we...
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rasprout

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:58:14 AM
Sucks to be them, are they the next failure in the line with the Big three... If so how much money will we give them?
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wiwhite87

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:56:15 AM
This seems to be a pretty simple issue of reprogramming the crossover point between regenerative and friction brakes. Ford is having the same basic issue on their Fusion hybrid.
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nissan_maxima09

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:55:00 AM
need to fix there problems
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FlyNFool

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:53:59 AM
Nail in the coffin?
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206awd250

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:53:44 AM
they are fixing the problem. lets talk about something else now.
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JXQW

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:53:27 AM
Let us talk about something else
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jd2009

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:51:35 AM
Fix the problem and lets move on ... Toyota will recover
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niceguytx

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:51:34 AM
We'll see if GM can take advantage of this great opportunity.
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CISA

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:50:47 AM
problems occur
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Fencemaker

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:50:05 AM
Toyota probably figured it was the right time to come clean on all this stuff. No point dealing with the aftermath of the gas pedal issue, gaining some public relations traction and then once you seem to have a handle on everything - BAM, another recall. Better to just pour more bad news onto the already bad news, b/c you can't get any lower right now.
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gilfarm

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:49:46 AM
gas pedals and brakes a good combination for a recall.
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dannyshouse

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:48:02 AM
and State Farm insurance had reported the problem to NHTSA and Toyota back in 2007 with Toyota taking no action until now, 2010!
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nedthenanite

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:47:18 AM
A recall, I understand, but it appears that this and the gas pedal issue actually go back a few years and there's been some attempt to obfuscate and cover up how bad these problems have been, and that's shameful.
Anytime I hear of an auto recall, I think of Fight Club. ;)
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FBI2991

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:45:46 AM
Old news. Let's get back to gas.
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Chummy37

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:44:57 AM
No more faith in Toyota.
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rippinusoff

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:44:54 AM
alot of cars with problems...wow
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esorsd

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:43:49 AM
WOW
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gvan

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:43:17 AM
"remember, these cars are built in america, by americans."
Not true. Prius is not built in North America.
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gasman50

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:41:59 AM
Toyota has a tough road ahead
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bluebird1

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:40:47 AM
Toyota needs to listen to customers more, resolve issues & get it done....more like some other car co's. It's nice that Toyoda is now stepping up in Japanese tradition but doesn't mean much over here, as long as someone in charge is handling issues. Nicer to know if any steps to prevent it in the future is being made....& none seems to have been made.
Also, did not know Prius had 2 other recalls around 2005....that was kept very quiet & until now never brought up by media that I saw.
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lostorosbravos

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2010 9:40:46 AM
Too bad for Toyota!!
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